House flipping in New York: 70% rule, holding costs, and what kills deals
Fix-and-flip math for New York - realistic ARV ranges, the 70% rule applied to local comps, holding cost reality including New York's 1.4% property tax, and when to walk away.
Flipping in New York: the 70% rule applied here
The 70% rule says your maximum allowable offer (MAO) is 70% of ARV minus rehab. It's a smoke test, not a precise formula, but it works as a quick filter.
In Buffalo, where ARVs typically sit in the $180k-$260k range, that math runs like this:
- ARV: $260,000 (high end of comps)
- 70% of ARV: $182,000
- Less $30k typical rehab: MAO = ~$152,000
If you can't buy under that, the math doesn't work. Use the fix-and-flip calculator for your specific deal.
What New York flippers actually deal with
Property taxes during holding: 1.4% statewide average. On a $180,000 purchase held for 6 months, that's $1,260 in taxes alone - not the largest line item but rarely budgeted by new flippers.
Permit + inspection cycles: notoriously slow - 6-12 weeks for major scope items is normal. Bake that into your timeline.
Holding costs to budget:
- Mortgage/hard money interest: 10-12% APR on hard money is standard now. On $180,000 that's $1,650-1,800/mo
- Insurance (vacant + builder's risk): $150-300/mo
- Utilities + lawn care: $200-400/mo
- Total: figure $1,200-1,800/mo holding cost on a typical Buffalo flip
A 6-month flip = $7-11k just in carry. That comes out of your spread.
What kills New York flips
Upstate NY is a different market than NYC - much more landlord-traditional, cash-flow possible. NYC + Long Island are stabilized-rent + rent-controlled landmines.
The common New York-specific deal-killers:
- Underestimating insurance during the rehab period. Builder's risk policies are usually findable but quote each one - underwriting standards have tightened.
- Comping to the wrong street. Buffalo's neighborhoods can flip from B-class to C-class across a 4-block stretch. Use comps within 0.5 miles and don't trust auto-valuation models on transitional blocks.
- Rehab scope creep. Lock the scope before close, get fixed-bid contracts where possible. Cost overruns of 20-30% are common and they eat the spread fast.
The actual go/no-go targets
For a flip in New York to actually work:
- Profit margin: $25-40k minimum on a $200-350k ARV flip. Below $25k and one bad week of carry kills it.
- Annualized ROI: 25%+ on cash-in. Lower than that and you're better off in a buy-and-hold.
- Days on market estimate: <90 from listing. Buffalo has slower DOM than it did in 2021-22; price aggressively to move.
- Exit price as % of comps: 95-100% of the top comp, NOT the average. Don't expect to be the #1 comp on the street.
When New York is + isn't the right state for flipping
New York's lower-priced metros (Buffalo, Rochester) still have flip-friendly margins because the absolute dollar spread on a $180,000 purchase + rehab is meaningful relative to the carry costs.
Run your specific deal through the fix-and-flip calculator - holding cost reality and the 70% rule sanity check will tell you in 2 minutes whether to drive out for the walk-through or not.